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Structure set for core group The direct advisor to council in matters of downtown improvement will be the Civic Development Committee, comprised of aldermen and representatives of local associ- ations. Although council will main- tain its hold on the financing of improvements, the committee will be making key financial decisions, Aldermen decided at the last minute not to include the city's administrative committee in the civic development committee, feel- ing it should function independent of city administrators. Instead of being active partici- pants, the administrative commit- tee will act in a supporting role, providing needed information. After much wrangling, city coun~ cil has decided on the structure of tl.w !n'o1,egg,te,t),t', Agency for the eitt't owntown study. Aldermen were unable to reach an agreement following a two-hour public meeting last w.eek, and took In hour of discussion at Monday's council before the make-up of the agency was decided upon. V The p65! of Civic Development Manager will round out the Imple- mentation Agency. Councillors engaged in a verbal tug-of-war throughout their discus- sion of the Implementation Agency even though the option chosen was eventually passed unanimously. Faced with six options. aldermen bantered over the best choice and after one motion was defeated and Council decided the yet-to-be-ap- pointed Deveéopment Manager should report irectly to the com- mittee instead of to the administra- tive committee, after some alder- men opposed this arrangement. The Waterloo Safe Water Soci- ety has decided to ask for a recount of votes cast in the June 8 plebiscite on nuoridation of the public water supply. Spokesman Jim Colley said sworn affidavits are being pre- pared today to be presented to a county court judge tomorrow _ the deadline for asking for a re count. "We're going to see what the judge thinks about what we have to say," Culley said in an inter view. He said a Waterloo lawyer, whom he would not name, has offered his services and is help- ing with legal matters. Colley said anti-fluoride scruv tineers claim there are some discrepancies between their tally and official figures on the plebi- scite question and that, in some cases, he figures for those voting for and against had been re- versed. Group to ask for recount By MARK WESSEL By the Chronicle Staff another withdrawn Alderman Rich- ard Biggs observed "we can't agree on any of.these." A major point of contention was the amount of participation the administrative committee will be allowed. Both Aldermen John Shor treed and Doreen Thomas argued for "a clean" civic development committee structure with the num- ber of members kept to a maximum of six. Administrative Committee participation in the group would not make this possible they said. While the administrative commit- tee won't sit on the committee, council has entrusted it to work with the planning department to prepare a report on matters such as the number of persons to sit on the Implementing Agency, what groups they will represent. how they will be appointed. and what their duties will be within the agency. Backed by Mayor Carroll, Alder- man Jim Erb on the other hand said the committee should include ad- ministrative committee members because "they provide experience and a background which is crucial in these matters." A compromise was reached after aldermen agreed to exclude the administrative committee as mem- bers, with provisions to allow them to attend meetings if the committee requests their presence. In an interview yesterday, Erb said “iFs my guess the Civic Development Committee won't have more than two meetings before they decide to invite some of the administrative committee mem- bers. If they don't, they'll have a lot of extra work digging for the information they need during meet- ings." But he said he isn't optimistic that the outcome will be changed. "I'm hopeful that it will, but I'm doubtful," he said. Colley said the main reason for asking for the recount is to "clear a lot of confusion up...and some discrepancies, and there have been some. The Sate Water Society spear- headed an unsuccessful cam- paign to have the M-year-old practice of mmridating the public water supply stopped in this city. "It's because of the confusion we're doing it," he said. “It (a recount) should settle a lot of people's minds.“ If the judge finds there are grounds for a recount, that will not be performed until at least ten days after his decision. With 12,165 voters casting bal- lots, the pro-fluoride side took the recent plebiscite by a narrow margin of 313 votes. On the other hand, when promoting fiscal responsibility "I'm on 'the right. So where does that put me?" He said that perhaps he belongs in the category referred to by Prime Minister Pierre Trw deau as the "radical centre." (Continued horn page 1) plained. In fact, he believes such designa- tions are becoming in- creasingly "artificial" terms, "If there's a prob- lem, let's look at the solutions," he said. "I don't care whether that's right or left. I'm a practical-oriented politician." Epp said if, for ex- ample, one talks about "more day care facili- ties, more reform with respect to women's issues and so forth ... then I'm on the left" in siding with those pro- posals. Epp also believes that the history of the country, whether de- monstrated by success» ive provincial or na- tional governments, has been to incorporate a mixture of so-called left and right wing Poli- cies and to find solu- tions to each problem based on individual cir- cumstances. "Part of the success of the Conservative party in Ontario... and the federal Liberals in Ottawa... has reflected that," he said, Epp knocks policy Nonetheless, Epp recognizes that the public views most po- litical proposals as left or right-leaning and says "there are a lot of people who, rightly or wrongly, perceive themselves with the right." Further, Epp main- tains "nobody, but no- body, is totally on the left or right with any policy." And, because of that. a would-be Liberal Zehr wins bid before council “I feel we know the land better than you do since we've owned it for over ten years," Zehr said. "We've studied this project, and there's more merchants wanting to get in on it thanrwe have room for." Lester Zehr's message was short and to the point when he addressed Monday's council. The president of Zevest Inc. and former owner of Zehr's grocery chain was on hand to push through approval of a shopping complex his company wants to build on land at Albert and Phillip Streets. The application had been stalled by the city's refusal to grant a commercial zoning for the property. While admitting there could be some minor traffic congestion in the area without road changes, Zehr said the positive effects would be greater. "We have the money, and with that we'll be supplying jobs and paying our tmtes," he said. government has to "represent their kind of thinking." Epp. meanwhile, was circumspect on ex- pressing his feelings about the continued role of Smith as party leader. "I will await what Dr. Smith says on the matter in the next cou- ple of months," he said when asked to com- ment on party support for Smith's leadership. "It would be prema- After Zehr‘s speech Monday night, council wasted little time approving the zone change to com- mercial, giving Zevest Inc. the go-ahead to build its plaza. They also dropped a recommendation by the planning department that if commercial zoning is approved. Zevest Inc. be required to pay for improvements to the intersection of Phillip and Albert Streets. But in meetings that followed that decision, Zevest Inc. and the plan- ning department were unable to reach an agreement on the zoning to be allowed. Waterloo's Planning and Civic Development Committee had re- fused Zevest's zone change applica- tion in late April of this year, asking that the matter be referred to the city planning department. The com- mittee felt the proposed shopping centre would cause traffic snaris in the area, and draw business away from the downtown merchants. ture for me to specu- late." Smith had led the Liberals in the last two provincial elections without coming close to forming the govern- ment. He has the options of either stepping down as leader, going ahead with a leadership re- view scheduled for March of 1982 or asking for a full-scale leader- ship convention at that time instead.