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By Philip Janey-c Council refused to budge Monday when asked to once more re- consider its stand on the sale of parkland to a former Twin Oaks Crest: resident, Davrd Greenside, Council voted 4-3 to stick to its previous de- cuswn to not sell any parkland to Greenside. who had encroached on to cityuproperty when building his swimming Shortt's client. Kam Chan. had offered to perchiyre the property from Greenside to Oct- ober. But two days be- fore the deal was to close on Nov. 20, an up dated survey revealed that a wall of the swim- ming pool. concrete slab and fence had been con- structed on city pro- my. 7 _ into an e: agreement The agreement would allow the owner of the property to use the land encroached upon. but the city could at any time cancel It and order the land cleared. The situation puts Greenside and a poten- tial buyer of the pro perty "in a difficult si- tuation," lawyer David Shortt told council. - Ttie construction took place about nine years ago, according to Shytt, With the deal stalled, Greenside's lawyer Frank Doerner ap- proached community services director Ken Pflug, who, Doerner City will wait ‘Continuod trom pan. 1) Two weeks ago council put off con- sideration of the realignment until re- sidents and representatives of busin- esses in the affected area could com- ment at Monday's meeting. Mayor Marjorie Carroll noted Mon- day that council had made the effort to contact all concerned parties and "all of a sudden I find we're in some kind of a dreadful confrontation. .. Woolstencroft said she didn't attend the meeting in a "spirit of confronta- tion" but was frustrated dealing with both the city and region on the pro- Ject. David Granshou, spokesman for parents with children attending Alex- andra, told council that all five rea- lignment proposals "ignore the irm portant aspects of community rene- wal." In a brief presented to council Mon- day, Granskou said “the whole area needs a facelift which could be facili- tated by a street straightening that would have something to offer everyone concerned, (but) thinking only of traffic flow will accelerate the blight which is now in the area." Alderman Glen Wright said the city should not make a quick decision and wait until Kitchener decides what it will do with the Courtland Ave. and Victoria Park portions of the project. City won't budge on parkland sale The realignment project is being property when his swimming 1 instead enter encroachment Doerner told council Greenside only needed a strip five feet deep run- ning along the 60-foot width of his property and is willing to pay fair market value for it. That committee re- commended selling a parcel of the parkland to Greenside and his two neighbours for a token fee of 8200, plus survey and legal costs, Pflug told council sell- mg the parkland would help solve loitering and At Monday's meeting, Doerner and Shortt pleaded m vam for a mo- dined version of the ad- ministration commit- lee's recommendation. The committee had re- commended selling a parcel of parkland mea- suring 60 feet wide by 5l feet deep with the $200 price tag. Doerner told council Greenside's feeling is "rm in a jackpot. I got myself in a jackpot. Can you help me out?" He said without deed to the property. Greensi- de would be forced to move or remove the swimming pool, or sell the property as is, along with the encroachment agreement. sand. took the matter m turn to the city's ad- mlmslranve committee vandalism the area But council nixed the idea at its Jan. 5 meet- mg and last week opted for the encroachment agreement, 'Either way "the value of the property is going loitering i problems Council decided to shelve the pro- ject until it meets in a series of joint planning sessions with represents tives of the school board, parents of children attending Alexandra, the Downtown Residents' Association, bu- sinesses and industries in the core area. No date has been set for the meetings. Council is considering five realign- ment proposals, which would link Caroline and Park Sts., that were first presented at a public meeting in 1979. carried out by the region of Waterloo as part of its road improvement study of the Courtland/Park/Caroline cor- ridor road system in Waterloo and Kitchener. "We should defer final approval be- cause if Kitchener doesn't act on its section we may have this wonderful intersection that doesn't go any- where," Wright said. The alternative favored by a consul- tant would provide a full, four-way in- tersection at Caroline and William Sts., and use a substantial section of Alexandra's playground, But council favors another altema- tive that uses a smaller portion of the playground, but creates a zig-zag at William St. The region has asked the city to sug- gest how it would prefer to have Caro- line St. linked with Park St. to im- prove traffic flow. In Alderman Henry er pressed concern about the city setting a prece- dent In selling parkland that has been en- croached upon said "the vendor should be prepared to reduce the price of his pro- perty," after Alderman Charles Voelker com- mented "it's hard to un- derstand how the mis- take could have been made in the first place tin building perty v. .. Alderman Jim Erb said "I feel we can ac- commodate these gent- lemen" and was sup- ported , alderman Doreen homas and Glen Wright. to substantially drop he sand. happy to London But the other coun- cillors refused to accede to the request. causing Doerner to comment after the meeting "rm surprised by their deci- Doerner told council the construction was "an honest mistake." And md Mayor Carroll , "the vendor should prepared to reduce [ price of his pro- Iv.” after Alderman after Aiderinar [ Voelker com "it's hard to un, on city pro- , ' I I © . w, _ ----rf l q c J , ll;5"h.': ' l , - t . y ' ' t . , . . - relMllMllltllllllinii di' :r ‘, , / git'cr . , ‘ i E ‘3'}; ' a c'Nl. " r " ‘,.'-iz‘”)_r W, T MB, Yi " ’- 9 " fie m CUM - " ? F1Cif%i8, - Wi T, l 131‘ 5“ ;-;‘§" :s4lirz,'1",1, b' 4 ar1 -' Ltt'i'r.trt,ry It an a .. ‘3: at» 1* Pst" _ b' ' wap‘ T m . at"); . Mr , y t. c"ge.d r: a - _ gr. T 'r"'r", 1. 5H4: . W, _ 'f5,i,'ia'-rcrr, t ' , N ~83 N "1?fsr'er'd', a I a C _ 9333 - A T .52. . , at' l h "We have a willing buyer and a willing seller." the lawyer said. adding that now the deal sum Darcy McKeough, president and chief executive officer for Union Gas Ltd. (left) looks at an artist's drawing of the company's new administration building with Jim Cowan. central region manager, at a press conference at Waterloo Square last Wednesday. More than 100 em- ployees from seven Union Gas Ltd. facilities in Waterloo, Cambridge and Guelph will be relo- cated to the company's new $2.25-million ad- ministration centre in the city next November. "Computers to assist in transit service Union Gas to build centre Darcy McKeough. the By Stewart Sutherland Waterloo will join with Kitchener in testing a new computerized telephone information service that will tell transit riders when their bus is com- ing. Both councils approved the scheme Monday Telerider 200, a tl-million demonstration pro- ject devised by Teleride Corp. of Downsview. Ont.. will be partly subsidized by the provincial government and shared by Waterloo, Kitchener, Cambridge, Guelph, Brantford and Stratford. All will share the same computer which will be lo- cated in Kitchener. In an interview yesterday, John Webster, com- missioner of transportation services in Kitchener: called the project a "glorified ans- wering service." "When most people call our (Kitchener Tran- sit) answering information line they usually get a busy signal or are put on hold, especially during peak transit hours," Webster said. “This new Te.. lerider service should prevent excessive delays in getting through." Jim Willis, city engineer, told Waterloo council the system would provide “tremendous benefits" for transit riders and the city at “not a par- ticularly high cost." may go nowhere The lawyers said they considered about $900 to be a fair market value on the 300 square foot company's president and chief executive of- ficer, announced the construction of the Northern Division Ad- ministration Centre at a press conference last Wednesday in Waterloo. The first phase of the project consists of the construction of a 40,000 WATERLOO CHRONICLE, WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 28, 1981 - PAGE 3 parcel of land needed, based on a $3 per square foot city average for lots square-foot building on 10 acres of land at the corner of Randall and Kumpf Drs. in the city's industrial basin. The company's facili- ties include a regional office at Waterloo Square, a service centre on Bridgeport Rd. and a branch office on King St. The computer, which will be housed in Kitchener's Strasburg Rd. transit centre, will provide information when transit riders dial a special telephone number to request the time of arrival of any two consecutive buses at any stop along any route. Hdaiso said the computer will inform callers of delays in the bus system, information on de- tours and transfer connection times. If the two cities decide to continue with the sys- tem after the three-year demonstration period, it would cost a total of $40,000 annually and the computer would also have to be purchased at an estimated depreciated cost of 392.400. “The first three digits in the telephone number will connect the caller with the computer. The next two digits are the route number and the last two represent the bus stop number." Webster said yesterday. Waterloo's 44 per cent share of engineering requirements and capital costs for the computer will be financed by the Ministry of Transports tion and Communications while the city's operat- ing costs will amount to about $16,232 after three years. The Telerider 200 system is expected to be in- stalled later this spring. Doerner said he may price return to council this Monday to plead once more for counctl's sell- mg the Land at the 8900 These offices and'faci- lilies will close and em- ployees will transfer to the new building once construction is complet- The new facility will service about 54,000 Union Gas customers between Owen Sound and Cambridge.