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According to Carroll income and price controls will work ‘"If you examine it eloseâ€" ly, stage one and two in the States worked," he said, ‘‘The only problem is they left the controls on too long which resulted in shortâ€" ages." Mr. Carroll feels the proâ€" posed 90 day freeze of the Conservatives will be long enough to break the ‘"inâ€" flation psychology" withâ€" out causing manufacturers to hold back their goods in expectation of higher prices after the freeze. ‘‘The inflation psychology is a really insidious thing,~ he said. "It takes all the thought and analysis out of purchasing. People start buying things now because Although many critics of the Progressive Conservaâ€" tive Party‘s policy of inâ€" come and price controls point to the United States as an example of a similar policy which did not work, Glenn Carroll, the Conserâ€" vative candidate in Waterâ€" looâ€"Cambridge â€" feels _ the United States is an examâ€" ple of a successful income and price control policy. In many of his public appearances, John Long, Social Credit candidate in Waterlooâ€"Cambridge in the upcoming federal election introduces himself as a candidate who does not have a chance to win. ‘"I would be the most surprised person in the ridâ€" ing if I did win," he conâ€" fessed. ‘"I have really just begun to fight," he said. "I look on this as the beginning of a long term program to bring Social Credit policies to the attention of the peoâ€" ple of Ontario.~ ‘"‘It‘s nothing new to me to start off the way this campaign is going," he said. ‘"When I moved here (ie. Cambridge (Preston) in 1970, all I had was a drafting board and an idea. Now we are really going strong. (Mr. Long is the presiâ€" dent of The Rubber Railâ€" ways â€" Company _ Limited which manufactures heavy duty trucks.) * He does, however, expect to take some votes away from the major parties. 12 Waterioo Chronicle, Wednesday, July 3, 1974 Social credit strength y L expected to grow says Long He is very encouraged by election 74+10 ‘‘The bandâ€"aid policies of the past have not worked," he said. "It is time to look at the overall picture inâ€" stead of just small parts."‘ ‘ In an election campaign which he feels is based alâ€" most entirely on the issue of inflation, Mr. Carroll said the Conservative policy has been . misunderstood _ by many of the voters. Mr. Carroll said the most important â€" thing at this time is to slow down the deâ€" mand for goods to give the government a chance to deâ€" velop an overall policy to combat inflation. & ‘‘*A lot of people did not understand our income and price controls policy, parâ€" ticularly the freeze period, he said. "In the past few weeks I have seen a daily improvement in the undert standing of the policy, though." . they feel it will cost them more if they wait. They don‘t bother to consider if they really need it in the first place." He feels the Conservaâ€" tive party are the only one Mr. Long takes pride in the fact that he works a 10 hour day at the office beâ€" fore getting involved in the campaign. He admits, howâ€" ever, that this routine is a bit strenuous. â€" The state of the economy is the major issue of the election, he feels. The economy, he said, is followâ€" ing the paths that Social Credit Party has predicted since its inception in the 1920‘s. the response to the camâ€" paign so far. The party has opened a campaign ofâ€" fice on Water Street, which he had not felt would be needed at first. ‘"Our party would reâ€" place the entire system we have now with an ‘income security program _ which would be like a guaranteed annual income.~ ‘"While the benefits to someone who is on welfare He claims the welfare state is a â€" monumental failure. ‘"Right now people are paid not to wark and are discouraged from trying to find work because they will lose money," he said. ‘‘The policy ~ certainly isn‘t a new one but we are the only ones who consider the situation serious enough to use it." Mr. Carroll, 44 a business administration _ professor at Wilfrid Laurier Univerâ€" sity finds his second federal campaign much different than his first in 1972. Â¥ Even if a Conservative government is elected and succeeds in introducing inâ€" come and price controls, Mr. Carroll concedes the economy may not react in the way they would like. ‘‘The Liberals are still talking _ about leadership rather than the economy," he said. ‘"Although they will admit there is a problem, they don‘t seem to think it is serious enough to go all out to do something about it." ‘*While there is no guaranâ€" tee the policy will work we at least have to try," he said emphatically. ‘"The issues are far more important in this camâ€" ‘"‘This program _ would allow people security with freedom," he said. One of the basic beliefs of the Social Credit Party, he said, was that the state existed for the individual and not the other way around. He feels that the Turner budget was irresponsible. The government, in his opinion, â€" should have â€" atâ€" tempted to lessen the burâ€" taking the question of in flation seriously. ‘‘The government would take the money from all the programs going on now and put it into the income security program," _ he said. ‘"With all the other programs gone, it would not cost any more monâ€" ey." He feels the oldâ€"line parâ€" ties are incapable of dealâ€" ing withinflation. ‘"The root cause of inâ€" flation is in the debt strucâ€" ture of our present econoâ€" my,"" he said. now would not be as high as they are under the presâ€" ent system, the people could add to this by workâ€" ing without threat of losing their benefits~ Most of the increase, he concedes, would have to be in Quebec, where Social Credit finished second to the Liberals in a number of ridings the last time. He would like to see an end to the long. election campaigns and favors a permanent voters list. paign," he said. "As a re sult, I have spent a lot of time writing for this camâ€" paign. There is more copy in our campaign literature than ever before."‘ Mr. Long sees a strong inâ€" crease for the Social Credit Party in the election. He feels they will hold the balâ€" ance of power in the same manner the New Democratâ€" ic Party did in the last parliament. Mr. Long feels that the party will expand out of Quebec in the future. Camâ€" bridge is the type of city the party will concentrate on in Ontario, he feels, beâ€" cause it is small enough for the message to get across election is to get the voters to look more closely at the men they send to Ottawa. to the voters. _ One thing Mr. Long feels is very important in the Of course, he feels, this will cause more people to vote Social Credit. den of debt on the country by balancing the budget. ‘"This is the type of camâ€" paign .I like â€" the personâ€" alities of the candidates are downgraded because the issues are more imporâ€" tant." > Even so, he finds the public are only willing to discuss certain issues. ‘‘Although I am a fairly strong â€" nationalist, there isn‘t any rpal discussion of foreign o%;rship in this campaign. There has been the odd question in the pubâ€" lic meetings but nobody really cares about it too much this time around." Mr. Long is married to the former Gail Long and they have five children. "I think this is a case of not caring about the dirt on the floor because there is a hole in the roof," he said. ‘"‘The inflation ‘issue is strong enough to rule out the others." Decision to seek reâ€"election not easy for Saltsman Even while the election campaign is underway, Mr. Saltsman is busy taking care of the affairs of the riding. ‘‘Being elected a mémâ€" for the riding, â€"he ‘said, ber of parliament is one of "and I would estimate the highest ‘honors people about half my day is spent can pay you, ~ said MaX _ on riding business." Saltsman, New Democratic Mr. Saltsman does not Party incumbent in Water=â€"â€""anticipate much of a change looâ€"Cambridge. ‘"If a memâ€" â€" in the upcoming parliaâ€" ber is not willing to put _ ment. everything he‘s got into the "It has been a very quiet, job he should get out and _ supdued campaign so far," let someone else do it." he said "with not too much ‘‘"I suppose it is like any job, che said. ‘"To do it properly â€" you have to â€"deâ€" vote all your time and enerâ€" by to it but there is always the conflict of wanting to lead a more normal life."" Before the _ campaign got underway, Mr. Saltsman gave very serious considerâ€" ation to not running in the election this time around. > "I came to the conclu, sion that I had a contribuâ€" tion to make and I would leave it up to the electorâ€" ate to decide whether I would serve another term.~ "I have always felt that politics is a selfâ€"inflicted injury,"" Mr. Saltsman said. ‘‘Anyone who chooses to run should be prepared to live with the responsibiliâ€" ties if he or she does get elected." He estimates he gets 30 calls a day, some of which can be dealt with very quickâ€" ly and others which require quite a bit of time and efâ€" fort. "I am still the member election 74+*1 In an endeavour to acquaint our readers with the candidates in Monday‘s federal election the Chronicle is presenting the following series of articles. The five features were written by reporter John Leckie, and submitted to the Chronicle for publication. for the riding, â€"he »said, ‘"‘"‘and I would estimate about half my day is spent on riding business."" & Mr. Saltsman _doe§ not "It has been a very quiet, subdued campaign so far,"~ he said, "with not too much enthusiasm on the part of the public.~ "I don‘t mean they are not interested,"" he stressed, ‘"‘They are just confused by theaimices."" Alt'l he ‘ks the leaders of the three major parties are all good leaders, he feels none of them have emerged as the charisâ€" matic leader that Trudeau was in 1968 and Diefenbaker was in 1958. He sees this a good thing because it is a more accurâ€" ate reflection of the feelâ€" ings of the country. "I think people realize there is no easy solution to the problem of inflation,~ he said. "There are only partial solutions and it will take a combination of soluâ€" tions to work."" Mr. Saltsman said the last parliament was a good on' should h;'asted lo He accused the Liberals of committing suicide with their proposed budget. "It would not have taken very much in the way of concessions to keep the supâ€" port of the NDP," the said. "All they had to do was lower the age of eligibility of the old age pension, even if they did it over a five year period and we would have continued to supâ€" port them.~ 5 If another minority parâ€" liament is formed, Mr. Saltsman would like to see representatives of all the parties meet and discuss the program for the sesâ€" sion. "As it stands now, the act is full of holes," he said, ‘"but it is a good start. It will probably be necessary to change if for the next 25 years but you have to start somewhere." He feels this would mainâ€" tain the dynamic qualities of a minority parliament while eliminating the aaily cliffâ€"hanger that was part of the last parliament. Although he does not think the act has a realistic limit on campaign spending, he feels it is a step in the right direction. Because he feels minoriâ€" ty parliaments are here to stay, he thinks the parties are going to have to work to adopt themselves to this type of parliament. This should result in the next parliament lasting conâ€" siderably longer than the last one, he said. He would like to see the Election Reform Act put into practice as soon as possible. ‘"I think anything we can do to assist candidates in raising funds independent of any large group is necesâ€" sary," he said. | "I think they should be Although he has only been divided into two separate in the riding since 1971 afâ€" ridings,"" he said in an interâ€" ter moving to Kitchener view last week. from â€" Newfoundland, Mr. The riding is difficult for Goff said he has not reâ€" all the candidates to cover ceived any adverse reacâ€" because the two cities exist _ tion to his status as a relaâ€" totally apart from one anâ€" _ tivenewcomerâ€" other and each have their _ | ‘"With all the newcomers own activities, he said. in the ‘riding, there is not ‘"In most ridings there the same interest in longâ€" is one centre where most Standing traditions," he of the activities take place,"~ â€" Said. "While this is not an he said. ‘"Here most of the advantage to me â€" obviousâ€" day seems to be taken up 1y someone who has lived driving _ between _ Camâ€" here for 20 years is going to bridge and Waterloo." know more people than I Mr. Goff said he has 40. â€" at least I do not have found that Cambridge has the disadvantage I would more of a small town atâ€". have in a small rural ridâ€" mosphere, where the peoâ€" â€" ing where there was not a ple see a little friendlier â€" great deal of growth." Mr. Goff said he has found that Cambridge has more of a small town atâ€" mosphere, where the peoâ€" ple seeq@n a little friendlier while Waterloo, because of its proximity to Kitchener. has more of a big city atâ€" titude which results in a little faster pace. The riding of Waterloo Cambridge is an unnatural union that makes it diffiâ€" cult, if not impossible, to properly â€" represent both areas, according to Liberal candidate Brian Goff. "I think they should be ‘‘In most ridings there is one centre where most of the activities take place,"~ he said. ‘"Here most of the day seems to be taken up driving _ between _ Camâ€" bridge and Waterloo." Waterlooâ€"Cambridge should be two ridings, Goff says Richard Rathwell, Comâ€" munist _ Party _ (Marxistâ€" Leninist) _ for _ Waterlooâ€" Cambridge feels the workâ€" ing class will bozmott the upcoming federal election. It is not apathy on their part," he said. "They are not interested because they feel the oldâ€"line parties have no solutions to their problems."" The Marxistâ€"Leninist canâ€" didates in the election have spent a great deal of time explaining that they are not representatives of the Communist Party of Canaâ€" da. ‘"‘The Communist Party of Canada became revisionâ€" ist in 1952," he explained. ‘"‘They support a constituâ€" Even though the Marxistâ€" Leninist Party considers elections _ a _ "bourgeois fraud‘‘ they are running 105 candidates in the upâ€" coming federal election in order to present their mesâ€" sage to the people of the country. * "In effect we are using the election as an excuse to talk to people and to orâ€" ganize workers across the country, ~ he said. Marxistâ€"Leninist expects _ workers to boycott election election 74+*1 Another equalizing factor in the campaign has been his work at CKCOâ€"TV. "I don‘t think working at CKCO is a particular tional assumption of powâ€" Although he has no illuâ€" er," sions of winning a seat in “ln many other countries, Waterlooâ€"Cambridge, Mr. they refer to our party as Rathwell does not: feel the Marxistâ€"Leninists and â€" that is the purpose of runâ€" the Communist Party as the â€" ning in the election. "In many other countries, they refer to our party as the Marxistâ€"Leninists and the Communist Party as the revisionists instead of idenâ€" tifying us as a wing of the . Communist _ Party," he" said. It charges that the state (i.e. the police, courts and antiâ€"labor legislation) are used against the workers‘ who attempt to resist. The party feels the domâ€" ination of the Canadian economy by the United States, along with monopoâ€" ly capitalism, is the root cause of the problems and that the Liberal, Conservaâ€" tive, Social Credit and New Democratic _ Parties. are incapable of solving the problems. The platform of the Marxâ€" istâ€"Leninist states that the ‘‘monopoly capitalist class" has shifted the burden of their economic crisis to the working class through inflation, increased cost of living, unemployment, layâ€" offs, â€"speedâ€"ups, â€" compulâ€" sory overtime and split shifts. One similarity‘ between the two cities, which he feels has been of some help to his campaign, has been the growth which has occurred in the two cities in the past few years. advantage, ~ < he said, ‘"it just makes things a little more even. Max Saltsman is very well known since he has been the member for four terms and Glenn Carâ€" roll is running for the secâ€" ond time so I would be at a tremendous disadvantage if it was not for working in television." ‘"I want to expose the fraud of the other candiâ€" dates in the campaign," he said. ‘"I really don‘t think they are capable of sitting down and discussing the issues of the campaign.‘"‘ ‘"I would be more than willing to spend three hours in a public meeting disâ€" cussing the causes of inâ€" flation but I don‘t think the other _ candidates _ know enough about it to talk about it that long,"‘ he said. Although he worked for both the Liberal and Conâ€" servative parties in Newâ€" foundland as a press atâ€" tache to Premier Joseph Smallwood and later Preâ€" mier Frank Moores, Mr. Goff said he really had an overnight â€" conversion to serious politics. "I regarded both of the jobs in Newfoundland simâ€" ply as jobs he said,â€"‘"riot something that I was doing out of political idealism."" "Even six months ago I wouldn‘t have taken the idea that I would be running in the next election very seriâ€" ously," he said. "As it beâ€" came apparent that the days of the parliament were numbered, I began to get Mr. Rathwell said the all â€" candidates meeting? which have been held do not allow enough time to discuss the issues. ‘"‘There is only one minâ€" ute allowed to respond to a question which doesn‘t give you time to explain anything," Mr. Rathwell said. "I have to give the straight party line without getting into a complete exâ€" planation because that is Waterioo Chronicile, Wednesday, July 3, 1974 13 On the local basis, Mr. Goff feels it has been a good, clean campaign. more interested because I felt that the two opposiâ€" tion parties were going afâ€" ter an election just for the sake of an election and that made me mad. all there is time for, he said. He would like to see these all candidates meetâ€" ings set up to discuss a single issue so it could be thoroughly discussed. His wife Gail is a candiâ€" date in the Kitchener riding ‘"Everyone is discussing the issues at hand without stooping to any low blows or _ personality â€" attacks," he said. "It is a really good feeling to take part in a campaign that takes place at a meaningful level."~ During the campaign he has experienced very little harrassment â€" from _ resiâ€" dents of the area. ‘There really isn‘t any violent antiâ€"communism in this campaign," he said. "It was low in the last election and is even lower this time." ‘‘Canadians are basically democratic," Mr. Rathâ€" well said. ‘"The ‘only strong anti â€" communism comes from the Western Guard in Toronto, which is an allâ€" out fascist organization .‘ He is originally from Oakville and lived in Britâ€" ish Columbia after attendâ€" ing Simon Fraser Univerâ€" sity until early this year. Mr. Rathwell, 27, is emâ€" ployed by Wunder Furniâ€" ture.inKitchener. He wis a candidate in British Columbia in the last election. Although he got into the campaign with no illusions about his position as an underdog in the campaign, Mr. Goff said the weeks of campaigning have > made him more confident as a person and a candidate. ‘"I think people are givâ€" ing the government the benefit of the doubt on the budget," he said. ‘"They dog‘t feel qualified to talk about it because they did not have a chance to see if it would work or not."