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President of the Kâ€"W branch of the 404 Wing of the Royal Canadian Air Force, Gordon Dinzâ€" more (left) leans away as 88â€"year old Tom Willâ€" iams illustrates a point on aviation with his By Wendy Herman The Red Baron wouldn‘t have posed any problem for World War I flying ace Tom Williams. At 88, Mr. Williams said he and Sopwith Camel airâ€" crafts were shot down every imaginable way â€" during World War I until the enemy finally had to give up on him. The enemy couldn‘t get him The alert Mr. Williams kept members of the 404 Wing of the Royal Canadian Air Force laughing at their meeting on Dutton Drive Thursday night with reâ€" counts of experiences that would put those dreamed up by Snoopy to shame. A resident of rural route Mr. Williams first reâ€" ceived a flying lesson in May 1917 in Scotland. He received 20 minutes of inâ€" struction then and only anâ€" other 20 minutes before he put in for his solo flight in June. "I had less than two hours of actual control of the plane before I went solo." Mr. Williams said ls 404 members shook their ead in amazement, "It may sound funny to you, but it wasn‘t to me at the one Woodstock, Mr. Wilâ€" liams answered questions from 404 members on his experiences in the war and his opinions on modern aviation. "I remember I didn‘t get my chance until around 9:30 at night. The féllow said, ‘Pick your airplane‘. The Air, Force does that you know, let you pick your aircraft...just like: picking your coffin, they‘re all linâ€" ed up like that." The Sopwith Camel was a perfect fighting machine according to Mr. Williams and he felt right at home in it. He said it may not have been every person‘s favorite but he thought it was perfect. In one experience, Mr. Williams said he had flown right into an enemy shell When he returned to Canada in 1919 after five years of action, he had a «chance for a job with Imâ€" perial Oil in Toronto but decided he wanted to stay on the farm. Flying was in his blood though and he continued to be active in it. doing some barnstorming. "I glided into a gorge over this river and had a strong north wind with me. L was travelling fast. I went over trees and landed in a field. When I later looked up where I had gone on a map I saw that I had glided over 24 miles."‘ and of course the engine quit. ‘"All I could see was mountains and I wonder why I didn‘t blow up because while flying over the Alps 1 could hardly breath for gasoline. During the winter in the late 1930‘s he recalled doing some bush flying up north. A snow storm had made visibility bad so he decided He laughs as he knows the audience is expecting some mystery. The lake he had landed on had been marked on the fold of the map and ‘it had just wore off." That just gives some idea of the type of equipâ€" ment available to flyers in those days. Mr. Williams didn‘t hand in his flying license until last year. He said he felt he had better give it up beâ€" fore they took it away from him yet he confessed he feels he is in better health today than he was a couple of years ago and he was flying then. to land somewhere until conditions improved. He sighted a tree and landed on what he thought would be a lake. Later after he had waited out the storm and reached his destination he decided to see where he had been, but saw no marking of a lake on his ‘"When 1 think about it though, its amazing to think that I was 18 before any rmean had flown. To think man has done so much in one lifetime with aviaâ€" tion is astounding,"‘ he said. "I‘d be confused to try to master all things in modâ€" ern air. craft today. In the last year or two I have flown in over 20 different types of aircraft." Airports â€" today â€" though are wasting a lot of space Mr. Williams said. "I claim that we barnstormers are the people who really startâ€" ed flying and we shouldn‘t hands. The spry Mr. Williams spoke at the branch‘s meeting held on Dutton Drive Thursâ€" day night. o be crowded off by the big jets. There is a tremendous amount of wasted space. If they made the high speed jets travel on two sides of the runway the little planes could use the grassy areas." Some questions from the audience concerning stoâ€" ries told about Mr. Wilâ€" liams just made him shake TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 13th wWEODNESOAY, NOVEMBER 14th W.M.H.A. ANNUAL GOLD PUCK HOCKEY TOURNAMENT Waterloo Arena â€" November 11th to 18th Schedule of games for 1st four days SUNOAY, NOVEMBER 11th 7 :00 p.m. 8: 15 p.m. 9: 30 p.m. MONDAY, NOVEMBER 12th 700 p.m 8: 15 p.m 9: 30 p.m 7 :00 p.m 8: 15 p.m 9 :30 p.m 1:00 p.m. 2: 15 p.m. 3: 30 p.m. 4: 45 p.m. 6:00 p.m. 7: 15 p.m. 8: 30 p.m. 9: 45 p.m. bhis head. When replying to a question about a story that appeared in a Toronto paper he chuckled, "Anyâ€" thing it said about me wasâ€" n‘t right you know. their own memoirs. These kind of stories come up and people tell me what I‘ve done and I can‘t reâ€" member doing them at all." 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