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_ ~WBNISTER OF LABOR _ . «CC .. _ ON HGHTâ€"HOUR B This question of shortening the bhours of labour is primarily for the consi€eration of the provincial legisâ€" laturg$: which have,within their jurâ€" isdiction . the. heurs. _ of labour, the factory laws, _ the laws â€" respecting mines, and cognate subjects; but, the discugsipn of the subjlect in this parâ€" liame%h l} fbund to be reffeéted _ in futur® IgdAslation hy the _ ptovinces and fh'e_’ gyncral‘exftcssion of"opinion in 1htS Phamber "thA? Â¥ho shéktening> One hour‘s work on a machine ~that is going‘at high specd may take more out of a man than.six hours <at an occupation where his energics are not taxed‘to the same strenuous extent. 1 think 4 may safely say that the wholéhistory of labour fegislation in respéet. to shortcning â€" the hours _ of labour : bears out. the view that _ on the whole the shortening of the hours bas been of immense benefit not only to the working people but to the inâ€" dustries themselves. ing hboyts of labour on public works,‘ but the dBScussion has â€" been almost entirgly on the broad â€" question oi the hotrs of labouy â€"gemerally. And so far as that braad question is couâ€" c:crncg T Have no doubt we all | foel that AnsThing that can be done toâ€" ward$ shortening Te hours of | toil for the groat masses who labour, will be of advaitake noi ouly _ to ‘the wnrki_fig rcf:isscs themselves but to the whole. compunity. I cannot agree with Tbe hon. memher jrom Fronterâ€" ac in"’fiisArofi‘tt'ntmu that men cannot produge such efective work by work» ing shorter hours as they | can by working excessive hours. The _ hon. gentlgpan carried his argument to an extr@me when he said that if the reâ€" ductign;of the hours of laber . were carried deowm,to the; last ; poipt it w oulg ,mean that there would .. be no work gonge at" all.; Well, you gan take the ';g[ersr of that argument .and you can q« jgll.contend that if you exâ€" tend the hours of 4abour beyond the stretching point, | the â€" workingman couldpnot accomplish anything at all hc(-augg ‘of bodily fatigue. _ In thesc daysâ€"when, industrial: processes are carric@‘ t)i_“'by’kfe‘at ‘natural powers, . by elettricity, by water, by steam, the inÂ¥@ssity of labour has : become tremeadously heightencd. â€" And,. in considezing the question,.of shortening the Routs of labor we must bear in mind fot â€"@nly the duration of Jabour but the intensity of labour as well. North Watcrloo â€" constituents. Mr King said:â€" "I.am sure that the working men of this country owe a debt of grati tude to the hon. member (Mr. Ver ville) gqr h;}ying brought to the at tention of the â€" House a Bill which has (qn:gsium;(l such an inferestins dxs('u%' n.on this important. subject Tlie i"l? is efftifled ‘An Act respectâ€" educatfon and cightâ€"hour | day â€" labor on public works. â€" The former address is arexhaustive trealment on | the subject dnd will be given in full in a later editaon, In this issue the Minâ€" ister‘s excellent and forceful remarks on | ts vighiâ€"lmur bill are. given and will be read with inlerest by _ his North Watcrloo â€" constituents. Mi. Hon.+W. L; Mackenzic King, Minisâ€" ter, and North Waterloo‘s capable represphQative, | participated in | two important ant interesting debates in the House of Parhiament [ast â€" week, and hisâ€"addresses created a splendid ilupr(;synu on both _ sides of | the House. The Telegraph is in â€" receipt of copies of "Hansard,"" _ containing Mr. King‘s aduresses ‘on technical educatfon and cightâ€"hour | day â€" labor on public works. â€" The former address is arexhaustive trealment on â€" the subject dnd will be given in full in a later editaon, In this issue the Minâ€" ister‘s excellent and forceful remarks Shortening of Hours, He Been of Benefit to We ;-‘. ;*‘Monarch. Peninsular‘‘ Range is made of the finest English â€" polished steel. We import this pegial grade of steel because we ave found, by long experience "«nfd careful sclection, that it is fike best steel in the world for ~ tanges. i; dt has a high polishâ€"is dark X‘Hm in colorâ€"and only needs an #occasional rub with a dry cloth «d keep it fresh and bright, @ IT. NEVER NEE »BLACKENINC. 9#.¢ +8 39. & **~‘‘Mhe finish of the whole range is rich and tasteful. ‘The Uutside cast parts are nickel plated, and the nickeled edges ace removable. We fully guarantee material, workmanship jhd‘%m of every "Monarch Penirsular‘‘ Range and give a bond with each of these ranges which absolutely protects the buyer. Monarch Peninsular‘ “c are also makers of the "HECLA" Furnace Our new booklet is eight pages of stove facts with illustrations. ~ Let us send you a free gopy to guide you in sclecting the right range. â€"The Steel Range Which Never Needs Blackening. and to Industries." subject . respectâ€" works," almost t, Minisâ€" capable in â€" two bates in Mr. King. I am just taiing the| hon. gentleman‘s words as _ I put them down. and as I think a relep’ ence to ‘Hansard‘ will show that he ; cave them. The words were ‘Even if| this measure has the effect which the , hon. member for soutu Toronto says | it will have, I am prepared to vote' for it.‘ Every hon. member _ knows | that the hon. member _ for _ South j Toronto said that the Bill was altoâ€" , geiher impossible. 1 Mr. Rhodes. I rise to a question of privilege. I said nothing _ which could by any stretch of imagination be considered as humbugging the laâ€" bouring men of this country, and I object to this language coming from the minister. I. meanâ€"to stand :by every word I said in this House with respect to this measure. What 1 meant was that if this _ measu:e has the efiect of causing the _ cight hour day to be introduced generally, then 1 am beartily in favour of it, because I believe in the eight hour day as a matter of principle. Mr. Meighes. Tac ion. member for | South Toronto, in describing _ the , measure: as impossible, described . its , efect. Referring to the cfect of the Bill; he said thit it extended to cases where men had contracted to supply goods to theâ€"govérnment. The hon. member for Camberland (Mr. Rhodes) referred toâ€"the effect, not the characterization ufâ€"the NBill. people ] submit that we should in ‘this parliament, so far as we have ‘the powerâ€"and we have certain powâ€" [efs in regard to contracts let by the ‘eovernmentâ€"we should do all _ that we can 10 further that end. 1 beâ€" licve in the principte that the _ maâ€" chine should be the ‘slave of man and not man the slave of the machine; I believe that a man should have not merely an opportunity to live _ but that we should have an ohportunity to live happily; @hd‘ that <he cannot have it if he is oppressed , by excesâ€" sive hours‘ of Jabout. We were told by the hon. member for Cumberland (Mr. Rhodea) that even if this measâ€" ure had the effect which the hon. member for Toronto (Mr. Macdonell) said it had, he was prepared to vote for it. Now, the hon. member _ for Toronto (Mr. Macdonell) said that the measure was altogether _ imposâ€" sible and therefore the position of the hon. member â€" for â€" Cumberland ‘ amounts to this, that he is preparcd to vote for a measure which is al-‘ together impossible. ~Well, Sir, 1 am not prepared to vote for any meas-] ure of that kind.; 1 do not believe in trying to humbug the working peo 1 ple of this country. of the hours of Jghour is a _ good ‘thing in itself will, we â€" may hops, bear Iruit. 1t b&gâ€"been pointed out, that this Bill ;ports to do â€" one thing, when in fii&_'_lt does another. it i# entiJed_‘An, Act respecting the hours of fabour on public _ works,‘ but it goes further and deals with every conceivable kind of _ contract in which the government of Canada canâ€" be concerned. lt is well â€" that the House should understand _ that clearly betore it pronounces on the measuse, .1 believe myself that while the measurc is intemged by the hon.. member (Mr. Verville) to relate only to public works, as a matter of fact it goes very much further thap be in-] tended. So far as this question has a bearing upon ameliorating the 0r~i dinary everyday life of the wyrkiugl people J submit that we should â€" in Mr.""gf;iv‘g““‘?‘-x;ginrvl.tvNt-].uilr' p'rcpm' eople J submit that we sh his parliament, so far as i be powerâ€"and we have cert rs in regard to contracts l overnmentâ€"we should do al ce can 10 further that end ieve in the principte that ti hine should be the ‘slave of 1 ot man the slave of the ms eheve that a man should h THIS ORIGINAL DOCUMENT I % Toronto said when he referred to the Bill as aitogether impossible. _ The 4A impression which .I certainly got, not omlum that particular remark, but . from th@ whole tenor ot his speech, Have was that he, like myselt, was preâ€" L pared to support a measure which m would really do sometbing | effectiye, 'but that hc'ags not prepared to M:nd up» in ‘this ‘parliament and say, that Le would support any measure when in his heart of hearts he felt‘ 2 Ko‘,‘“t{\at _It v_fluuld really do no good to Labour for departments of &hc â€" go. etnment, during the pl-riod';;m Jiw 1900, 1&® March, 1907; indésive. _ In that table they will find@Â¥hat the Ocâ€" partment of Labour preparsce during that period a total ofs},!;7 fatsâ€" wage schedules which fi\r' hoen 0 it serted in cantracts aWarded by tios tovernment from Mlann«' in 1y . Pladd o\ dissolt ns member of this / He nows, \or ought to know, is part %(‘ his duty to his" uents to see that if a res assed by this House is not! carried out, the department which is responsible . for the work shall be notified and _ be given the opportunity of looking into the matter; and I say, without fear of contradistion, that during the 10 vears that I was deputy minister of the department and the short time that I have been the Minister of the Department, no case has been brought to the atiention of the department of alloged nonâ€"observance of this reâ€"â€" solution which has not been fairly and fully invéstigated. I would ask the hon. gentJe A0 lock at the ‘ annual report l:‘!“zhe Department | of ! Labour as prescuted #0 this | i Dous: in which, at page 133”&('_\' will find â€" a statisfical table of f@if®yace schoâ€" | CHRONICLEâ€"TELEGRAPIHI, THUR sDAY, pECEMBER 10TH, 1909 Paad 3 2P ffaithfully and fully carried oul; and !in all its contracts the Foverpment has caused to be inserted a clause lrvquil‘inq the contractor to pay fair rates of wages and to give the wogkâ€" lingmen employed by him the hours of {l:v,bnur current in the district . where ithe work is cartied on. The governâ€" Iment has not , relied‘ simply on the {safegnard of a gereral provision â€" of ithis kind, but Iins appointed | special jofficers, known as fairâ€"w age â€" officers, }\x hose duty has been to go â€" to the flocality where any public wortk _ is fto be carried on and prepare in adâ€" |vance a schedule of rates of wages ‘aml hours of labour, to â€" which the lcontractor is â€" required _ to agree |before the contract is awarded. ; Mr. Hughes. May I ask is that is itho case on all public works of the ‘covernment? â€" _ dules prepared by the f)(:pa}xx;c-lxx e ’ Mr, King. If that is the case, I am unable to understand how â€" the representative of that district has allowed that condition of affairs to £0 onâ€"amd.never.bring it to the atâ€" tention of the government. Mr. Hughes. I will answer â€" the hon. gentieman when he is through. Mr. King. Every member of this House knows, or ought & know, that that resolution was , and every member of this ‘ He nows, ‘r ought tohnw,,s is part â€" 6t _ Mr. Hughes. Quite the contraty. I can give you the cases. _ For inâ€" stance, right in the town of Lindsay, on theâ€" government work of building the locks there, the men are not paid even the ordinary street wages. er of the Bill has in view. In 1980 't‘hc Hon. Mr. Mulock, now Sir. Wim. ‘E\Iulock, introduced into this House & resolution in favour of the payâ€" ment of fair rates of wages to workâ€" Ing men engaged _ on public works and the euforcing of the hours _ of labout current in the district whers the work is @@frried on. Since that time the .govetmment bas endeavoured to see that that resolution has beern I Eo oi on en nee se dn n lieâ€"works, I would like to point out that this government has already taken considerable steps _ towards merting the object which the promotâ€" ; _ J _ WaU, Bhee C 8O dof a8 It Itg uudxtrt*_fimu ol labour on pipâ€" lieâ€"works, I‘would like to point nut Mr. King. I understand that it teferift toâ€"the Holse to: de ons EWl Cns CRestot | ACTE reied on. The governâ€" For Boys , relied‘ simply on the quantity ereral provision _ of and doll l§|> appointed â€" special m the department cance of this reâ€" not been fairly d. I would | ask to lock at the e Department | of 4Â¥ tor South that oured been and LN VERY POOR CONDITION compared with pending largel n Canada, and J fnd every part of the cour #iference in the hours compared with other fere cause fhey can work the whole Yyeat lnund,[nml in others they â€" work a longer ‘day because they _ have _ not the same opportunity throughout the whole vear to carry on their calling cont that fair it. For that reason, if for no other, I think it is desirable _ that _ the THouse should have fuller information than it has at present on a measure which is lkely to give tise to such serious complications. In the buildâ€" ing trade there are a large number of men who have agreements | with their employees. These agreements have been the resuit of negotiations during a long serfes of years. They bave been the result in many inâ€" «tances, of serious strikes or lockâ€" outs, and they tepresent undersiandâ€" ings. arrived at between the emplonâ€" ers and the men as to the conditions of employment. â€" Some of these agreeâ€" ments are for three years, sotue too five vears and some for other feis of employment. Some of these ; ments are for three years, son five years and some for ether and it scems to me that the of this measure upon agreement that kind is anothet feature mdeed, | do not say consequence would. ne but 1 think that, on workingmen | themselv gency should be clear It seems to me des this House should kno which the eight bour or ten hour day is al ence in difterent part: that kind is should reeeiv« tion before w feets, 1 indeed. consequ W1 t0T f The locality list ricks ingmen were toâ€"day working 10 hours for a certain wage, is this Bill _ beâ€" work eight hours for eight hours pay rame law, they would be prepared to or would want ten hours pay _ for cight Rours work. The reply of the hon. mover of the Bill was that it was up ito the employer to say what he woul@Wpay and up to the _ men to see &t: they, could ‘c%fi I do ndt agre® hon. frient. It is Wihakp this "to tell all partics concerned what anâ€"Act of this kind means when it is on the statuteâ€" book, and to leave no doubts _ in any man‘s mind as to what his priâ€" vileges or his restrictions are under arried herefore before cnacting legislation uld reemive our mos! i before we take an for instance, one c ild be that contract their workingmen: hb to enter into an i ains a mass of gubject, prepar wage officers of abour. It gives s of labour ir kinds, large variety ai to ¢ts. per Ib. e l...s: $ â€" Tree Decorations â€"the best yet. Let us have your order. REMEMBER THE PRICES ARE ONLY 5, 10 & 15c. NO MORE S. H. KNOX & CO. â€" 5, 10 and 15c.STORE|| . 1 hik Our Strong Specialties CANDY, CANDY, CANDY. By the barrel, all No Waitingâ€"48 Salesladies to give you every attention. We invite you to m ike our store your headquarters while doing your Christ mas shopping. m s o 4 2â€"â€" §MAE iLE ~ N w it tar" For Gentliemenâ€"Sitk fourâ€"inâ€"hand ties, f(mt mufffers, hosiery, ini#al sittd Handâ€" kerchiefs, wool gloves, eta., etc. axrs For Ladiesâ€"Battenburg doilies and centrepieces, handkerchiets, pillow tops, note paper, neckwear, hair ornaments, fancy box perfumes, nut pick sets, china and glass ware, etc., etc. p 10 [few o 53 if it rcaus ms i o tha 23â€"25 King St. East ents insidera t i« n work a can work uld 4+ thing â€" t1 e are offering the largest and best line of XMAS GIFTS for the city,. _ XMAS GIFTS for every member of the family. di or of ttu wld result have had L t document information ed by one i nt and Girls TOYS, TOYS, FTOYS. We have almost an endless of toys.games, hosiery, underwear, hockey sticks, pocket knives, dolls carrizlzés, in fact everything to make the children happy. . the whol irable also w the exte s of Tabo localities a_record the f the behalf s. th L other â€" that in a (rv, there pI W { t a th t one of the Department ril unstances particular thes it THE BUSIEST PLACE IN TOWN A FEW SUGGESTIONS milding trades almost i1 whi matl { the ntin od. tha h dif 5, 10 AND 15 CENT STORE de UJ thing on in whos legislate it wen ing of auesti Let me s why T this measure . sl cial aomm: South Tor spoken abo terl, by t corimit t1 ml;t be out.furth is at prc intd 11 to determitfie arbiirarily the hours of work, we should give the men | who are to be afiected an opportunity of expressing their views. | Uzrder the circumstances, having regard to the desire of the hox. gentleman himself (Mr. Verville}, that this Bill be not sent to the cemetery, as has | been the fate of other measures, the best thing we.can do is to réfet it to a special committee of | this | ffouse, before which all parties | concerned will have then opportunity of being heard. I would suggest therefore â€" to dvant pport alro w pres have tee, Kine opporti rder d1 sel Ho tat nnng think botfs of thie committees appoinâ€" Congress laid before a special tire of this House so that they be considered. I might point ther that in Nova Scoth@ there present a commissioft inquiring number of questions affecting arking classes. One | is the n of the eight hour day, and f this Touse to have the findâ€" ld be very much to the advanâ€" that commission on that subâ€" age inity 13, back Id en:l bon A. J. PRETTIE, Manager give anothcr uk if desita hoold he ref br pportun chalf of upon bais mind a e committees h1 iT 11 eferred bl 11 one.of legis] U proepading past eight »uld be th that all y 11 ight hour day, and se to have the findâ€" much to the advanâ€" ission on that _ subâ€" think it would be an ilouse to have the certaining what the oi the department reparing their schedâ€" M o the one was the Whatever mt U it? L y of having this select committec, t that in order to to the cemetcery, should a vote be by the discussion ho should Ab 11 h ift P ch irt of one of if the ‘Amertâ€" tatives. _ But reason of two le that this Ted to a speâ€" u. friend from d f1 half t GCTien in the 11 arties y â€" heard 1 alf dozon have . dealt »ss the Jine. government ed a â€" measâ€" ing someâ€" orkingmen invited to ind will 11 now pioâ€" efect of may have prompted at â€" least vear _ the M U h the will gree \"/â€" | REMEMBER That Every Shck onila b pre and conâ€" te ha of 11 Pléase Send Contributions to J, ] Robertson, Chairman, ?h.. Davidson, Seo.â€"Treas., e for Sick Children, College St., Toporig pmaie . A Just think of itâ€"Your money oas hels the Hospital to do the roed work atraightening the crooked limbs and oln feet of little children. â€" Please help us. massagrN0 A ratiRNt. the Kospj tal last year and 67 had perfect eorrection ;m.;/[ Since its organizaâ€" L__. tion the Institution rwo ervr root cases has treated 15,613 . in braster children ; 11,530 of these unable to pay and were treated frge. It you know of z any child in your J# nrighborhood w ho J * # .' P sick or has any 2 Mn «lefurmity send the 4 @ ,J. ® name of the pmrent P * * on to the Sm‘lflj{\'. \‘\’\’b The Hospital for ; “" L* Sick Children is not . WB@ R n n local but a great fi‘ Provincial Charity for the sick child of f the poor man in uny corNe Hom® t® M'hli‘ part of Ontario has same claim upon its aa the cM!g â€" who liv es » within the ( _ J shadow of a its walls ?n subjert to the sanction of‘ ghe fer and smmm Potmnmit®ees The Hospital for sc Sick Children HEEmMEMOEEH in OBMO'WO P 3 onts Cannot Afford to Pay for Treat: ment is Treated Free â€" THIS APPEAL 18 TO YOU! The Hospital for Sick Childé%\q had last year in its eots and beds 1,15 l%:ltltiotlt.sâ€"~_ â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"4 883 of those were CALL EXTZXDBED The official Board of the . Norfolk S1. Methodist! Chiirch, :‘ Guelph, ‘exâ€" tended a unanimous call to Rev. J. i Fitzpatrick, of: Wesley Church, . Toronto, _ which he has . accepted, l B L U BEFORR Cents Nothi Over #db> 5# f 3 from 267 places in the Province. Sixtyâ€" five per cent. were children of poer people who could not nfford to pay. BERLIN in th transâ€"