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"""_ -__.- _- u.» mummy“: of party unity, and to the applicability to our case of the old maxim that 'United Me stand. and divided we milk Even unm- ed, the Liberal party has not m fitteem years been able to ddslodgt thatroteetioa party mom mower. notwithstanding all their misdeeds. That party adopted the policy ot Mon as the principal plank in $3: platttorm for the general election Df . 'mm vnham.‘ AM“-.._x__ ,‘ u _ T _ _ ___ "___ ___. awn“. wwuvu pt we. The genemn depression at that us Ibo-day. Some cut least of these ques- mlons it would be Impossible tor us to unite upon, ehoher atrwmatirely or nega- tively, and they must be open questions, or union and success are impossible. The party must be content with a platform which meanwhile leaves such questions out, or tube pony can carry nothing, mox- gdt from the electoralte the position which would enable (them to carry anything, I do not say this as so with every important question not himhento embraced in the planter-m of the Liberal party. Those matters which our honored leaders and re-. presetrlltatives in Dominion aitairs and our public jounnais have tor some years been pressing on public attention with ability and perseverance, have been so well chosen that obey are now being recognized us Just and right. and in the country‘s Somerest, not by Liberals only, but also by many who are not of the Liberal party. I hope that we shall secure these at all events. Foremost of them are a reformed tariff and reciprocity of trade with our neighbors. it we can obtain such reciproci- ty on fair and honomble terms. This, there is reason mo believe, a. Liberal gov- ernment could do. (Reciprocity restricted to the natural products of the two coun~ tries is unattainable. but our neighbors 14an than Liberals are willing that the reciprocity should not be restricted to the nmturail products of the two countries. but tthttul1t1 Include such manufactures also as may be agreed upon. Liberals believe such an arrangement to be practicable, unless our neighbors should be misled into supposing that the majority of Canadians want reciprocity so badly that they will consent to any terms. and even to annex- ation, rather than not have it. It is not correct that Canadians in general are pre- pared to buy reciprocity at the price or annexationor at any other price which may appear to mhem to be too exacting, or may be otherwise distasteful. But Liberals In general believe that a fair measure of reciprocity, not restricted to natural pro- duets, would be an advantage. not to Can- ada alone, but to both countries. They beuevethat it is quite practicable to con- vince statesman of this, the statesmen or the United States as well as those of Canada, and that many of them are al- ready convinced of it. some anxious loy- alists fear that more intimate trade rela- tions with our neighbors would lead to political union. and they on that account oppose reciprocity. An opposite view is taken by some Uniilted States staltesmen, and public Journalists, who argue that re- ciprocity would delay or wholly prevent political union, and they are tor that rea- son against reciprocity, and are endeavors ing to prejudice their fellow-citizens against it. On the other hand, those Cai adian loyalists who, like most of us here, favor reciprocity, believe and hope that it would have no effect either Way on any question of political union, and having this hope and faith we do not think it comsistemt with duty or patriotism to re- fuse acceptance or such a measure it at. (amiable. “We are agreed as to the duty and the importance ot conducting the busV nees of the federal government on bust, has: principles, which tor party objects the fedeml government has in so manly ways disregarded, to the injury of the coumhry and the demaralizatlon alike of members of parliament of contractors for public works, and of omeers of the gov- ernment. Ive waaft no save our country from any further such Iinjury. " We axe agreed as to the iniquity ot such gerrymandering of the constituencies and as to the iaiqaities and inconvenience ot such a. franc-Mm eat. as disgrace the Dominion statute book. We want to have waspectfu.) and just. measures substituted for these. br We are agreed as to the necessity ot a fundamental reformation of the Senate, it her any reason a. senate must be or should be retained. The senate, as now constituted, is the weakest point in our Constitution. All Ltberals. or nearly all, want to have reform in the senate. We are agreed as to various other matters. " It the policy ot the Liberal party on the subjects mined and other subjects has not got tor it the votes of members who were elected as Cottsarvatives, it is qullte calm: that that policy has at all events the actual approval ot some of them, and has gained, and iss gaining, the favor of my Conservatives in the con- stituencies. Multhtudes are now in favor of trade refomm who were not in its favor until lately. Many are against the waste of public m9ney which has been going on in the Dommion. Many acknowledge the 1s1deNrnsitrility ot the gerrymandering act; alsappmve strongly of the franchise act, and admit that the senate needs retorm in some such direotion as is claimed by the leeral party. These oplnlous of old op- ponents in the constituencies cannot but men at the general election, it lepuls are but active and diligent and prudent (as I am sure they will be) in the Liberal campaign. “In éonneutlnn with the Liberal plat- form. one thing which I am cemtaln or as, that we are all olive to the importance A. M.._, y“ _ A - " On many other subjects of prime im- portamce to the country the Liberals ot! the Dominion are also agreed. We are agreed as to the iniquity ot the wasteful- ness which there has been in the man- agement of federal 4btrairs during the Last titteen years. and which is likely to continue as long as the present govem- meat continues. We therefore do not want that government to continue. oipal mamas which, in the interest of the people of this great country, most need present mutenmon. In addition to these, there are other important questions which are exciting lube interest of large sections ot our people, and may Be brought before Mr. J. F. LISTER. gether to confer on their removal. For tMs purpose matters of organization are or essential lmpontmnce to our success, and wlll receive your earnest aitltentroTt. But slnce we have come together our plan of campaign must, I suppose, embrace also some formal statement or declaration of principles and contemplated measures. What shall bt be? So far as I know, the Liberals ot Canada have hitherto been pretty genemlly agreed as to the prin- H. S. Hmwoon, M.P. for Vatsdrmut, If!" ', bl "tN' fig/V: “(1“ I a k _ M1 w fi! ' w. 4"iiiil "i,, i -dt--11 PM )3 i ' ”4’ f" mg 'tii 'jjivii)'i',,! (Y, ll' xi" 1'i".",,"i'i) 'ii).,, rpt/ in b--; 7 u 'IA M. P. for West Dunbton, U. w“ Wm , Mr. Laurier on stepping to the front met with a most ftatterisvg receptlon. the en- tire audience rising to their feet and cheenimg for several moments. MR.LAURIE‘R'S spmzcu. Mr. Laurier said :--" Ladies and gentle- men.-r would vainly seek to find, even though I abtempted to do so. words to convey to you a sense ot the gratitude of myself and those entrusted with the The enthusiasm with whlch the prem- ter ot Ontario had been recelved on his entrance broke oat again and again when he rose to open the meeting. Sir Oliver, after acknowledging the applause. said that Lt was his pleasant duty to inform the convention that they would now hear the distinguished chieftain himself. withdrew their support from the best of governments, under: the premiership of an excellent man, an able statesman, a noble patriot and a pure politician. the universally-lamented Alexander Mackenzie (Appause0 As Canadians. lovers of Can- ada, and desiring for It the best possible fortune. we could now wish for our court- try to-day anything better than a gov- emmenm of another miner; years and more like that of Mr. Mackenzie ; or than we Know a government would be if under the premiership of our distinguished and esteemed Dominion chief. with some of his able coadfutors in dhe two houses of parliament as his colleagues. Our country greatly needs such a, government. May its accession to office be soon, and may its tenure of office be long." (Loud and continued applause.) The remainder of the agternoon session was devoted to the work of organizing the convention. Hon. W. S. Fielding. premier of Nova Scotla, was appointed first vlee, chairman, and Hon. A. G. Joly and A. G. Blair, premier of New Brunswick, see. ond and third viee-ehairmen. The convenvtion met again in the even- ing about 8 o'cloek. The rink was crowd-. ed to the doors, the body of the hall being occupied by the delegates and the galleries by the ladies of Ottawa and thee escorts. The audience was both sympathetic and enthusiastic,arad notwith- standing the intense heat listened with the keenest attention to the speakers " the evening. When Sir Oliver Mowat. the chairman for the evening, was con- ducted to the platform by Mr. H. A. Bates the secretary of the Ottawa Reform asso- ciatton, the audience rose as one man and cheered for several moments. The chairman was followed by Mr. Laurier and Hon. A. G. Jonas. Hon. Fred Peters, C. S. Hyman, W. D. Balfour, M.PP.. Iron. E. H. Bronson, Hon L. H. Davies and Mr. JAMES MOMULLEN, M.P. for North Wellington. others. for as a party. In doing that work first, It for the present we can do no more, a. grand work will have been done towards promoting the prosperity ot our country and securing its future well-being. Fur ther reform In all directions 'may follow. I hope, and from what I know or have loomed of those who Compose this con- vention, I not only hope, but I expect, that in. considerlng the subjects which may be brought before you. the conven- tion will prove itself a model convention of earnest and thoughtful Liberals ; that many will go home from the oonventlon with their political taith strengthened and their political zeal quickened; that we all shall be stronger Liberals and sounder and more hopeful Canadians tor having been here, and shall be more unit- ed politically than ever before; and that after the next general electlon it may be truly said by the whole country that it was at the Liberal convention in Ottawa in J une, 1893. that protection and bad gov- ernment: and consequent political unrest among our people received their death- blow. (Applause.) ' It is fifteen years since Canadians, for the sake of the protection experiment, Premier Peters of 1irGdriiidwara Island was named associate chairman. EN THE EVENING. Hon. L. H. DAVIES, M.P., Charlottetown, P.E.I. .. We all hope that the general election will result Ln the formation of a Libaral admmmrabiou under the premiership of our distinguished chief. This administra- tion will have the opportunity of crystV lizing info the law and into the constita- tion and mm the executive action the re- speotive mamas which. so tar, Liberals have agreed upon, and have contended it, however disastrous to the best interests of the country in the long run. But the end appears now to have come. Our neigh- bors south of us have Just dislodged their protection parity, and there is every pros- pect of our having a like success at our next general election. Bus for this pur- ]:tse the Liberal party must be united. We must endeavor to retain present par- ties, and go on adding to the number from without. This convention may be asked to consider whether for this purpose the Liberal party should contine itself tor the present to its present platform, which we probably all agree to be in the main a good plmttorm as tar as it goes, and whe- ther therefore the convent-ion should rec- ommend it without any change, or whe-. the: some modMeatioa should he made in regard to any of its planks ', or whether there should be ad, ded some new planks. All such Proposals are to be weighed from every standpoint. On the one hand, important, beneficial improvements are not to be hastily rejected, and, on thine other hand. we can none of us forget the danger ot ' swapping horses while crossing a. river.' We are now in the river ; we want to get to the other bank ; We have a fair pros- pect of getting there as we are, and it might, perhaps. be serious tor us to swap horses while on our way ; but that is tor the convention to consider and determine. time in Canada, an common with the rest of the world, unfortunately disposed our people to ftry almost any political expert- ment from which there seemed any chance of velisyt, and the policy of protection proved a fortunate piece. of party tac-. 'tics tor the political party who adopted er dare to speak tube truth. There Is but one answer to make to this, and it ls that the truth would not be spoken at all. It were a crime uioutrtedly-it were a national cNme--top anyone to speak Ill of his eouatry If 1e spoke falsely. It would be a crime, md a great crlme, it the colors under whlth the country is pre- sented were that true; but I submit that u would be more a crime to conceal the truth for fear ot causing tear or shame. Theme is but one (11ng to do. sir, and it bt 'Although not represented, British Co- lumbia takes warm interest in the pro- ceedings of the Liberal convenltion. Sen- timent here favors a policy of freer trade relations whth Great Britain and her cola onies, especially Australia, and reciprocity of trade with all other nations.' (Ap- plause0 Nothing like this convention has yet taken place since confederation, and to fiTId anymhing of the kind or approach- ing it you must go back to the days ot old Canada-to the famous Liberal con- vention which met in Toronto In 1850. And, Mr. Chairman, you will allow me the pleasure of saying that this meeting is presided over by one of the leaders of that Convention in that year. Sir Oll- ver Mowat was one of those who helped on that occasion IO shape the policy which afterwards prevailed. Sir Oliver Mowat belongs in more senses than one to the school ot that great old man who to- day, under the gaze of an admiring and wondering world, is struggling against many odds to relieve a country from a regime of oppression, and to give it good government ot the people. (Applause) Time seems to have made no impression on Gladstone; his mental activity seems to Increase with years. Sir Oliver Mowat, perhaps more when many others at the convention ot 1859, had to deal with the Curticuities that were then prevailing. Canada was suffering from severe tus at that mime. 'Dhese ills, however, were ot a constitutional naturf. For years an imperfect constitutions system had pre- vailed in Canada. There was the union of Lower and Upper Canada, an English and a French province, with all the dis- advantages of a federal and a legislative union, and without any of the advantages. You know that the principle which was then adopted as a solution ot the woes which Canada was then suffering was re- presentation by population. This principle was gradually extended until it became the origin of confederation, until it be- came the means whereby the four pro- vinces of British America “ere united in- to a confederation under the sanction of the motherland, with the object that it was to extend all over the continent. We, the Liberals, at this late day, are again assembled in order to discuss the present position ot the country. I am glad to say that thotupl1 Canada is suffer- ing many ills and woes, they do not arise from constitutional effects. I am glad to say that the eonstbtutsion, though not per- Not, still is such what it should command the respect and love of all Canadians. (Applause.) I want it to be known at the very outset of our proceedings that while coming here from all parts of the Do- minion, to discuss the political situation at the country, to remedy, it possible, the ills from which our country Is sutrerhlg, we do not come here in any carping spirit. with any revolutionary words. I say. we come here with our hearts full ot love for our Canadian countrry-(applause)-wlth pride toe its past and trope for its future. (Renewed applause.) Mr. Chairman, it is undeniable that to-day the position ot Canada is oat what it ought to be. la the eyes of many of us-should say ta the eyes of all of us-the position is such as to make a good many of the people of Camada feel anxious tor the fate of the country. We are here to discuss the sltu.. otion of cum country. Whenever we meet. as we do upon this occasion, to discuss the situation of our country, we are met by our opponents with a very singular ob- jection. It We speak of the situation of the country, and it we do not represent it in roseate colors, we are told at once by the Conservative party that we are decrying the country. This is a very strange objection. It would mean that the party in Lower have the right to do anything they please, and the only thing left to the opposition is approbation. The position of the opposition under this rule would be a slavish one, and it would nev- Mr. D. C. FRASER, M. P., t Guysbcro', N. S. is to speak the truth on every occasion. It is not perhaps was: the bounds of hu n nature to expert than every page of Fi history of a paple would be free fro’ eonttiet, but I assert; that a people’s Dr. LANDEKKIN, M.P., thinks Ws hot. ot New Brunswick; of Mr. Peters, the premier of Prince Edward Island, and of Mr. Sifton, ot ibhe Manitoba government, it you will allow me here to speak, I wouln say that I value still more, from a. per- sonal point of View, the presence amongst us of my old friend, Mr. Joly de Lotbin- iere, under whose leadership it was my good fortune a good many years ago to serve my apprenticeship when I had the honor to sit in the local assembly ot the province of Quebec, when he was leader of Itihe opposition. (Applause) He has told you here to-day that he has retired trom politics, bat when he heard the sounds of the bugle, and got the smell of the powder, he had to fallAinto the ranks like an old soldier. (Applause.) I am proud to tell you, gentlemen, that we have to- day representatives trom all parts mostly of the Dominion ot Canada-from the pro- vince by the Atlantic, from the valley of the St. Lawrence, from the region of the great lakes, even from the prairies of Manitoba and the Nomhwest. The only province which is not represented to-day officially is the province of British Co- lumbia, and yet to some extent it is, tor this morning the chairman of the conven- iuon received the following telegram _ as I am to-day ot the presence of Sir ou- Ver Ndmrt, premier ot the province of cm- tario ; ot Mt. Fielding, the premier of Nova Scotia; of Mr. Blair, the premier fomtuunes of the Liberal party toward you tor the kindness with which you have responded to the appeal which I made a few weeks ago in my capacity as om- clul head of the Liberal party ot the Do- minion ot Canada. It is most encouraging that there should be such numbers pre- sent, not only that there should be such numbers present, but that we should have upon this platform the leaders of Llo- eral thought in so many provinces of the Dominion, from the vetamln of Ontario to the young iightrng premier of Prince Edward Island. (Applause.) Sir, it you would allow me a personal thought upon this circumstance. I would say thatmroud L29; the giant from 'thast if the 'Grit eroalrorrs.' as he called them, had been there, they would tInd evidences of the error of their? statements regalrding the condition ot the country; bat It the . Grit croaker ' had been there he would have told Mr. Wallace what was a fact, that every one ot those terms had decreased in value 30 or 35 per cent. dur- ing the last tttteen years. He would have told Mr. Wallace, yes, this is a tine COU‘l'h try. The sun does not shine upon a bets tet in its course, yet upon every one ot those farms they deplore the loss of a son or daughter who has gone to the United States to find what his own native coun- try does not give him. This language of Mr. Wallace is the strongest possible ar- raignmem of the policy ot the present government, that, with the undoubted ad- vantages we have, these people of Orange- ville and surrounding country cannot keep their own at home. (Applause.) The min- ister of finance wise said on that occa- sion that the country was pP0sper0us to a degree, and the story of the exodus in- vented simply by the Grits. (Laughter.) fe':"', might be, he said, a few emigrants ow and then, and what think you was the cause Mr. Foster told them of these people leaving the country? You could not possibly divine it, because what little exodus there may be out ot the country is caused, according ta Mr. Poster. by the articles in The Globe newspaper. (Great laughter.) According to Messrs. Foster and Wallace, those who leave the coun- try leave it simply because they read The Globe newspaper. Well, sir, The Globe is a very good paper in many ways. (Applause.) Icommeud The Globe, and I commend the editor of The Globe, who is on the platform to-tright. I am glad to see a compliment paid by an opponent. but I am a Frenchman. and they are supposed to be chivalrous, and I must stand up for the Conservative press, It is not fair tor Mr. Foster to dis, count its influence. It the people around Omngeville read The Globe, is it not pos- sible they also read The Empire? (Laugh. ter.) if The Globe tells them they are not prosperous. is it not possible that they read The Empire, which tells them they are prosperous? (Laughter.) is it possible the people of Ormgevilie and Amado and of Canada, 'urrsiaiiaii iris" P. T. GOBMAN, editor Free Press, Ottawa. had heard that perhaps it would not be sate under the prcesent circumstances to open Cardwell. Therefore, 'they made a descent upon the faithful of Cardwell. One of the ministers who was taken up was Mr. Clarke Wallace, the controller of customs. He opened his remarks by expressing his great admlrat-lon tor the beauty oil the surr'ouTIdings of Orange- ville. He spoke in glowing terms of the appearances ot prosperity of the harm houses, and of the farms, which he saw in all direot’lons. I have: no doubt Mam Mr. Wallace had good reason to speak thus. Orangevulle ls one ot those places which olalms to be the garden ot On- country like Canada, which can keep and maintain a hundred millions of men, can- not keep a paltry population of 5,000,000 tthere must be something Wrong with the policy and with the government. (ADA plause.) The conclusion ls irresistible. Wheat the ministers of the crown deal with this question, they simply deny the facts. 'Ilhey tell you that the country is prosperous and that there is very little emigration. There was a tew days ago a meeting in Orangeville, which is situated in the county of Camdwell, and you know it has been rumored that the government were contemplating rewarding one of the faithful, that the government were contemplating removing Mr. White, the representative or Cardwell, to another sphere of usefulness, to make him the col, lector of customan Montreal; bat. be, fore they came to. that conclusion, they Hon. J. W. LONGLEY, attorney-general of Nova Scobis. 7.000.000 of souls. Lt ls tu-day about 5.000,- ON, It our hopes had been realized, we “cum to-day have upon the soil ot Pan- ada 1,000,000 of our teuow-Canaduv1s who are now to be found in a. neighboring country. Jlt is not too much to expect that in a country like Canada, with so many resources ot every description. that every child bum upon the soil should re- main a. damn of Math for all his lira (Hear, hear.) When the ntitAsters of the crown speak of ths matter' they affect to treat it very llghmly, I submit to you that there is nothing of greater import-. ance than this very question. Why, sir, ic is a well-known fact that the growth ot population ies the measure in many in- snances of the development " a people. Not only that, but so important is it con- sidered, Chat not satisfied with We natu- ral growth of our population, we have spent thousands and millions of dollars In the last “teen years 1n order to bring in immigrants, It is a matter ot regret to think that, though we are spending $200,000 or $300,000 every year in order to bring itt immigrants. we cannot keep our own people amongst themselves. Is it to be supposed, is it to be expected, that if those born on the soil cannot remain at- tached to the soil that this forelgn popu- lation will be attached to bt? Is it to be expected that if we cannot keep our own people, those we bring from abroad will remain? There Is only one concluslon to be arrived at, and it ls this, that it a any one were to look at the history or the country few the last 26 years, that man must admit-ind I may say here to begin with, that Canada has made great nd substantial progress, but, great as that progress has been, he must admit that it has not reached the legitimate expecta- tIons of the Canadian people. No man can say, I do new care to what party he belongs, that Canada has realized In these 26 years the hopes that we had 26 years ago. It our hopes had been realized, tire populatloa of Ca.nada would be at least history will be the closest to tiuth where you tirld a sarong and healthy public opin- ion to denounce every crime and outrage. I submit every possible condhtion of the successes and gmmdeur of a people is that all moral offences should be denounced, that all crime should be denounced, and that the truth should be spoken upon ev- ery occasion without fear or favor. " /pf5'c()s kip/2 t tea? or tuiror. " at the history or the and the immediate danger is the tariff which new oppressa Canada. (Cheers.) There is, as you well know. a universal consensus of opiaion among classes, nay among all parties in this country. than the tariff which now prevails in) Canada is a burdensome tariff, that it is an up- pressive tariff. and than: it is known what was known at one time as the NP. has been found to be a fraud and a failure. (Loud cheers.) I say there is this oni- versal consensus of opinion amongst us that the tariff has to be reformed. What do you see in Ontario to-day? A large section among the rank and file ot the Conservative party openly declaring that obey want to undo the evil they helped to establish in former years. Look in the ranks ot the faithful. those who are aun- isterial to the backbone. Last session we saw man after man rising In his place in parliament and proposing amend.. meats to the taritf. men like Messrs. Cleveland, Pope and others. proposing to take one brick here and another there, until the wall was threatened with de- Secretary BATE, Ottawa Reform Associa- tion. _ ""-_"ee_e"W"i_ __- w “.4. PPE7 ““5... be tempted, and the oocaslon would be a tempt-mg one, to enlarge the political horizon, to enter new fields, and perhaps direct a pollcy to the tulture destiny ot Canada. Some people-perhaps they are represented heyrte-tavorr closer union with the mother, courrttt--(hear, hear)-some want Canada. to take rank wiUt the other Patrons of the earth-(hear, tsear)--and there are some to-day who would favor the union of the two great branches ot the Anglo-Saxon race on this continent. (Hear, hear.) Sir, I respect all these 0pm. fans; but listen to me when I say that we should not indulge in speculative Poli- 'tes.-. fr"'NV.s_-_N m, _ I remember, in the house of commons he wanted every man to be a cold-water man like himself. He seems to have changed his view, but tor what I have no remark to make, save this : that the statements of Mr. Angers requires a good deal of cold water to wash down, and perhaps something else besides. (Laughter.) But, sir, the ills of Canada. to-day are not constitutional ; they are altogether or an economic nature. In my humble opinion we should set it dorwn at once that this is an assembly of plain and practical men, met together to deal with plain and practical questions. I agree with every word ot the chairman of to-day. We might kn pn~»>n.1 --a u _ . w -e'"'e'-__-_6.V Wm tics. (Cheers.) This convention ought to be eoatined to PLAIN. PRACTICAL QUESTIONS. "it is not when the house ls on ttre that We should think ot needed improve, ments. Our tlrst duty is to arouse the peas ple to a. sense or their mirrreuiil2 555122;, pot as well as the water." (Laughter.) Well, sir, the people ot St. John must thank Mr. Angers for knowing that tin exodus was not of a, great size. The statement was made at a dinner to Mr. Foster, who, as you know, is, or was, a cold-water mam. (Laughter.) He is still a cold-water man, I believe, yet ot not the same degree of intensity as in former days. (Loud laughter.) In former days He spoke In a city which in ten years has not increased In population, but has actu- ally Alost 2,009 souls. The population of St. John under Mackenzie“: regime ex- ceeded 40,000 ; by the last census the popu- lation was reduced to under 40,000. That ts to say, that the whole of the natural in- crease had been swept away, and 2,000 souls more. (Sensation.) Hespoke in a province in whieh the whole Increase dur- ing the ten years was 37; that is, that the whole of the natural increase had bean swept away, vwgetlher with every immigrant except M. Yet Mr. Angers said the exodus was not ot a very great size. We are told that the Lord one day sent His angels to smite the first born of a people to punish them for their cruelty. but here not only the first born are swept av ay, but the whole Issue of the people is extinguished. (Loud cheers.) Yet Mr. Angers says that the exodus is not of a very great size. The newspaper raponl did not say that this statement had been received with any cheens, but if they did not they did not do hlm that Justice to which he is entitled, because it must have been something new to them to lei-ow that the exodus was of no great size. What would be the condition of New Brunswick and of the city ot St. Joan it the exodus had been of a great size? There would have been nothing left ot the city; the whole population would have been swept away. Under Mr. Mackenzie the city of St. John was swept by a disastrous tire. I assert in your pre- sence, without fear of successful contra- dirytfrort, that the national policy has done more to injure the city of St. John than that great tire, and, in the face of this, Mr. Angers could tell them that the ev- odus was no great size. Once a mission- ary went to preach the good news to a heathen city. From the first house which be passed he received the contents ot a p31; of boiling water. He did not go fur- then He thought he had gone far enough, and went back and told his friends what had occurred. He was asked "What did you say?” and replied, "1 thanked them." " For what?" "Because," he answered, "they did not send me Jos. H. LEDUD, M.P. for Nieolet, "the youngest. member of the house." suing from place to plaoe-0atlghter0-to tind flaws, at flaws there be. in the na- tional policy A few weeks ago they were In the city of St. John, N.B., and his ad- mirers gave Mr. Foster a banquet. at which a teRow-eoontrymuat or mine, who happens an be mlndster of 'urrlcultury, Mr. Angers. made a speech. He proved that he could be, on any occasion, the equal ot an Englishman, that he could be equal to his predecessor, Sir John Curling. He gave figures to his hearers. and spoke of line exodus and prosperity of the country, and told the people assembled that the exodus " was nbt of a Vern great slze." on the Grit papers to tell them? (Laugh- tier.) Sir, such arguments do not deserve any answer. 'Dhore was smother meeting held elsewhere. At the present time there is pro: A KOVING CO,M MISSION THE EXAMPLE OF OUR NEIGHBORS. "You know very well thalt this Yankee system has been condemned by a. majority ot the states and a. majority ot the pop“. "You are endangering British connéc. tion," they said, "So much the Worse for British connection." They adopted the policy. but the result was not what they had exvected. The policy did not stop the exodus, as they said lt would. The exodus under their policy doubled and trebied. Whtrt is the reason the policy prospered comparatively in the United States and not in Canada? The reason is that the great variety of climate to the south ot the line. their increasing population and the great accumulation of wealth, were a protection against protection They had free trade amongst an everr-mi2reasing rrommunbty,and were saved by free trade notwithstanding the high protection. But there was more. You know very well that this wisdom which was borrowed by our government trom the United States has been condemned by the American people, (Cheers.) of protection. The Conservative parttthe loyal party, left the example of the moth- er country and went over to the.tother side for a policy, and they brought it back singing ba God Save the Queen." They advocated that policy In 1878. In 1879, after they were returned to power, they intro- duced an American 110strum and gave it to the loyal people of Canada. When they were told by people like myself, who claim to be as loyal as they are, but whose lor- alty is in Che heart, and not on the lips, which are, in my estimation, 3. most ei‘o- quent arraignment of the N.P. During the period from 1871 to 1881 in the pro- vince ot Ontario there was an increase or 342,071 souls. In the following period, from 1881 to 1891, the Increase or popular tion fell From 342,071 to 151,563, a decrease of more than 100 per cent. In Quebec dur- ing the prusvlous period the increase ot population was 167,551, and in the tolloss ing period the increase was 130,035. or a decrease of 37,000. la Prince Edward Is- land in the former period the increase was 14,000 ; in the following period the increase was how many? Not even 1,000; not even FOO, not even 200, but simply 189. In Nova Sootia. the increase was in the previous period 52,772, while in the following period it was 9,920. In New Brunswick the increase was in the former period 33.639. while in the second period it had fallen oft to just 37. The whole increase was swept away. Such figures as these are the strongest possible arraignment ot the national policy. It is true there has been an increase in Manitoba. in some respects, but Manitoba. has been peculi- arly situated. The tiae prairies ot the west have, to some extent, attracted immi- gration, but we know by the tigures of the census, which have been taken from time to time, that not more than 50 per cent. of the immigrants that went to Manitoba remained there. There is not, I may say, a single province throughout the Domin- ion which ctamurs so much and so loudly to be freed from the incubus of the na- {lanai policy. I appeal to the farmers who are now before me it it is not true that the mast dfhcuit period for the far- mer is the period following the tlrst set- tlement. This is the period when, it the farmer is to be favored, he should be as» sisted, but farmers of Manitoba have been forced to pay tribute to the manuf)aeturs ers of the east. Manitoba would boil with joy the day when it would be freed from the incubus of the national policy. We are told that we cannot 'say that the ma.- tional policy has been the cause ot the exodus, because when the people leave the country, they go to the United States, which has also a protective tariff. The ar- gument is a. capillous one. It is true that the national policy is nothing but a ser- vile lwtlon would be increased, and you were told that you would have a population of teeming thousands in the cities of Can- ada. What are the results? I am going to give you Just in principle, iiqultous in Its terms and dangerous Ln its consequences. (Applause.) I say that it is vlclous 1n prineipte. I Want to Know-and I pot the question so as to be heard through the length and breadth ot this eoontrt-by virtue of what principle will you tak a man to enrich his neighbor? By virtue of what prin- ciple will you tax the farmer In order to glve work to the worklngman? On what pnlnclple will you tax the working- man in order to give better prices to the farmer? We were told in 1877 and 1878 that by adopting a policy or high taxation we would create labor, and it we created labor. those who bore the burden would be recouped In some way. All these pro-' mises have been found to be fallaclous. siructlon. Str, the feeling became so unan- imous among the Conservatives them- (selves that the government had to come forward and promise than they would deal with the question and reform the tariff. That was the promise extracted from them, but WDILE reform can you expect Worn men who tell you that the country is prosperous and ithat there is no exo- all? ; who tell you their system is perfect and hardly in need of modification? Look at what took place a few months ago. Sir John Thompsorr,st lthe board of trade ban- quet in Toronto. told a large audience that the government would be prepared next session to lop off some mouldering branches. When we came to the session we were fully prepared to see the govern- ment lop oft' these moedering branches ; but we found that the government had changed their View. and what were moul- denlng branches in January. like the rod of Moses, became tioweting Dough: in March. (Cheers and laughter.) They had mo alteration to make. Gentlemen, you have nothing to expect from them. Apart from the logic or events, you have the word of Mr. Foster :hmself, who has de- clnred again and again within the last few weeks that tariff reform would coo- sist in this, that there might be a few changes here and there, but that the principle of protection in the N.P. would be maintained. This simply means that the government are going to scratch off the paint. and put on a new coat ot var- anh. and call it tariff reform. (Laughter and cheers.) Mr. Chairman, again upon this occasion, I want it to be well un- derstood that WE TAKE DIRECT ISSUE here and new with the government. (Ap- plause) The government tell us uhat the pnlnelple of the N. P. they are going to maintain. and we answer to the gov- ernment that the principle of the N.P. ls vicious and must be taken oft-not only the branches. Sir, you remember what took place previous to the defeat of Mr. Mackenzie. At that time we had for pre- mler. as you well kmow, a man of inde- pendent rectltude. There never was a purer or a greater man in my estlma’tlon In Canada than Alex. Mackenzie. (AD- plause.) He would not stoop to pander to what he supposed to be popular preju- dlce. He thought that the country could not be made prosperous by high taxmlon. The people believed otherariae. I have no fault to ttnd with amybody, and no crltl- clsm to offer, but I appeal to your Judg- ment in the face of the experlence of the last titteert years under the tsys- tem which was lntroduced by the Conseriratlve party', which was dubbed the N.P., to say it that system ls not vicious lt the pMroeiple had been true that by high taxation we would create labor, We would see the result Lo-dmy, our popu- COPY Ol? THE AMERICAN SYSTEM Hon. B. G. Jon? de Lotbiuiere. Wu M’ . (ji,ii' iiiiiifi _ _,i,,iii,r/_"i,i,":: W p, ' ("llrii, £94 ' A FEW FIGURES and what were r January. like the tioweting Dough: d laughter.) The)! is to say, a treaty confined to natural products only, bot manufactures have to be included as well. In 1888 we adopted a policy of untrammeiled trade with the United States, This policy was distorted to a most wicked perversion by our op- ponents. They asserted on the platform and in the press that when we wanted was unrestricted reciprocity, and nothing else, and that we would not take any- thing else, whereas the tact was that we were prepared to negotiwte upon a, basis of unrestricted reci-proriiy; but we would have been ready to obtain any treaty with reciprocity upon a basis or na.tural products, and manufactures as well. The Liberal party, when it formulated the policy ot unrestricted reciprocity, never disguised that there were difficulties in the way, and that when we came no. 'ii'iA"iii'i, the treaty several lines or mn- of the people, and not into the pockets of anybody else. (Cheers.) I submit to you that no duty should be levied tor pro- tectlou's sake, but levied altogether and only for the purpose of tiltineg the treas- ury to the limits required. I submit to you that every cent that is levied should be levied tirst and foremost upon the lux- uries of our people. (Cheeks) I submit to you, therefore, that the system of protec- tion which is to be maintained by the government, that is to say, of levying tribute upon the people, not tor the le- gitlmate expenses ot the government, hut tor a private and privileged class,s:hould be condemned without qualHieatiom (Cheers.) Let it be well understood that from this moment we have a distiaet is- sue with the party in power. Their ideal is protection, our ideal is tree trade. Their immediate object is protection; ours a. unit: for revenue only. (Cheers.) Upon this issue we en- gage in battle from this moment forward and I ask you once more never to desist until we have achieved victory, until we have freed this country from the incubus which has been weighing it down tor tit- teen long years. (Loud cheers.) Nothing ls more ditt1cugt-that is one ot the evils of protection-than to wipe away protec- tion, because under it interests have been established which every man who has at heart the interests at all classes must take into consideration. It is always easy to increase the tariff, because iby so do, mg you increase the private fortunes of certain individuals, but whenever you de- crease the tariff it has always to be done with careful consideration, and I am sure that when the Liberals are in power they Will not be indifferent to those truths. Any one in this audience, any Conserv- ative in the country, " I ask, do you crave more markets for your produce, I would be told, 'Yes.' It I were to tell him there is on the other side of the line anation ot (5.000.000 of the Anglo-Saxon racethat is the greatest commercial race in the world, would you not like to trade With them antrammelled and unfettered? RECIPROCITY WITH THE UNITED STATES. Years ago we had a treaty of recipro- city with the United States, and you know that was the golden era in the hu- tory of Canada; Again and again the wish was expressed what we should again obtain that market if possible. but it has become a settled fact with both the great parties in the United States that they will not Denew the treaty of 1854; that Mr. SCRIVEB, M. P., takes a little rah-uh- meat. 4e Sir, my loyalty, as I stated, does no! ooze from the pores of my body, but a do want to go for an example to the mother country, and not to Elle Unllted States, much as I respect the people on the other side of the line. I say the policy should be a policy of free trade, suoh as they have in England, but I am - to say that the circumstances of the country cannot admit at present of that policy in its entirety. But I propose to you that from this day henceforward it should be Iuhe goal to which we aspire. propose to you from this day, althoug we cannot adopt the policy itself, to ado: the principle which regulates it; that l. to say. that though it should be you mlsfomune for many years to come _ have to raise a revenue by customs du Dies, these duties should be levied only so tar as is necessary to carry on the busi- ness of the government. (Cheers.) I sub- mit to you that not a cent should be ex; tracted from the pockets of the people. except every cent goes into the cranium JAMES SUTHEELAND, M.P., Liberal whip, North Oxford. the people decently attired. This Is what they want to do again, ond on this occa- slon I do not object to their steamy; our clothes, but I do object to their ap- pearing before the country in false colors. They want a. reform of the tariff only to retaln the system of protection. I sub- mit to you that the Ideal fiscal system is the British system of tree trade. (Cheers) . - _ m, -VbFrrr7 copy of the Amt-vimm system which has bean brought amongst Us by the leaders of the Conservatives, is like Ms proton-pg, a fraud and a robbery-ooo applause)-- and I on” upon you one and an to pro- nounce at once and give your emphauc support To the ptxaposltioi1 that we shall never rpst until we have wlped away tram our system that fraud and robbery under whlch Canadians Sutter. (Great cheer- ing.) Rut. sir, there is somewhlng more. We pronounce to-day Ln fawn" of tariff ré. form, and our opponents have borrowed the won! from us. You know It has belm the system of nhe Cottserwative party more than 0mm, whenever their cIoLhes became delospidated, to steal the elalthet, of then opponents, and present themselves before endowed by the Ame tiest 0ppornturrlty, folk dared in 4he most erm the system of protect a fraud and a robbery "Mr. Chairman arid gentlemen, I sub- mlt to your judgment thut the servile was a Democratic convem occasion they declared: demn Republican protect and a robbery of the gr the American people ford tew.' (Cheers) That con endorsed by the America tir-tst 0ppornttmltyr, followin dared in 4he most emphat the system of protection lar vot